Hallerinthemorning 10:10 Fri Apr 30
Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
|
I see that Fury is doing the typical traveller thing of leaving a trail online to 'prove' that he wanted the fight all along when it eventually gets cancelled....
Bob Arum says overnight it is dead in the water as due diligence from Saudi Arabia will take months and months.
Eddie Hearn staking his reputation in the fact it will happen.
Why are Arum and Fury putting time limits on the fight as if it is Joshua who is desperate for the fight. Surely the lying pikey who feigned a touch of SAD to take spotlight away from drug ban is running scared and knows if he loses, his legacy will be fucked whereas Joshua will always be looked upon as a great sportsman .
What do you lot think? Announced in next 2 weeks or called off?
|
|
|
Replies - Newest Posts First ( Show In Chronological Order)
ForeverHammers
12:57 Sat May 1
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Yep it's why UFC has some interest to me, everyone more likely to fight yet in boxing are we ever going to see Ruiz v Wilder for example. I'd say probably unlikely as they know losing that harms them.
In reality what Wilder, Ruiz want is for them to get a Championship fight without first having defeated others in top 10.
|
Crassus
12:50 Sat May 1
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
They will fight him for a vacated title
|
ForeverHammers
12:34 Sat May 1
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Sure but I am far from convinced Ruiz just shredding weight from fat to muscle immediately means he is the best heavyweight and will trouble everyone. Of course he might.
I guess what I would like to see is if he can go through the contenders himself first rather than suddenly be in a championship fight again because he has just lost some weight and looks better.
That's the problem though far from Joshua or Fury ducking someone like Ruiz, why should Wilder, White and Co do so.
|
Crassus
11:48 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
His weight will be interesting, but I suggest that he will have shifted the light flab into heavier muscle, so look much smaller but be not proportionately lighter - if that makes any sense?
And he was more than a problem for AJ as a feckless bum, AJ dropped weight for mobility in the re-match, when Ruiz was even more physically inept
His new stable will just not turn him out in any condition less than ideal, one way or another *
*cough
|
ForeverHammers
11:39 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Ruiz is 31 and finally managed to get in shape. But it could mean he is now more light heavy and loses an advantage he had of being dismissed. I don't think it always means better. That's no dig at him. He may be a problem for everyone.
But Ruiz should be looking at destroying likes of Wilder, Whyte, Uszk and Joyce before he suddenly thinks he is an immediate contender.
|
Crassus
11:07 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Mate, he beats both
He for my money is the best in the division in naked talent terms. His physicality and focus has let him down.
Unacceptable in his new set up, just won't be tolerated and they will get the very best out of him. We have seen the best of the other two, and irrespective, they lose and therefore won't get in the ring with him
I see our two fighting, likely a re-match and if it can be protracted, a trilogy, with or without belts which they may well have dropped by then for the coin and then retire
As such, AR will sweep in behind, and a fight with Whyte for a title
|
Charoo
10:51 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Crassus
Neither of them will fancy him. Fury likes a big man that stands in front of him, Ruiz has got very fast hands and good movement and I think his style could trouble Fury.
We already know he can trouble Joshua. In the first fight, AJ took him too lightly, in the second fight Ruiz had been on a constant bender for months. Be interesting to see if they both prepared properly for it.
I honestly see him giving them both a fight if given a chance.
|
Crassus
10:41 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Haller
Yeah, I get that, but in the battle of charcuterie, my money is going Ruiz
|
Hallerinthemorning
10:36 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Canelos Butcher
Furys Farmer
|
Crassus
10:30 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Charoo 7:13 Fri Apr 30
Charoo, I was going to post about him earlier - he is looking the part
More importantly, he is in with Canelo's team now, so no wonder he is looking the part - particularly if the team extends to Canelo's 'butcher'
He will be a champion again, provided he gets a shot, but I don't see either Fury or AJ wanting to get in with him so by the time the pressure builds they will both have bailed out
|
Stevethehammer
9:23 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
All this will they won't they
Its like one of those shitty love films.
Get the 2 blokes in the ring and let them beat 10 bells of shit of eachother for 12 rounds. Both are going to get a massive paycheck and it's about time Joshua was really tested against someone at the very top of his game and has come back from oblivion.
|
Hallerinthemorning
9:11 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Fury won't come back if he loses the first Im sure of it.
|
Hallerinthemorning
9:11 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Passerby, you write immaculately and succinctly and describe some mechanics of boxing to a degree but you are massively wrong in my opinion about the Wilder fight. Wilder was offered a champions purse/percentage eventually.
They rejected it.
Now I know I don't need to explain to you what happens when certain TV companies no longer own a HW title. Al haymon losing the belt has lost of alot of his power in TV rights etc.. they only accepted fury cos they thought he was a fat bum whom.he would knock out.
|
SurfaceAgentX2Zero
7:14 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Block
If there's one thing Fury doesn't give a fuck about it's 0.The fighters he most admires are the ones who have lost and come back from it. Possibly Warren or Arum cares, but not Fury.
|
Charoo
7:13 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
By the way the Fat bloke, now isn’t so fat - he is looking, fit, fast and focused.
Be interesting to see what a fit Andy Ruiz can actually do now he is off the snickers. His left hand to the body is brutal.
|
stewie griffin
7:09 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
You can always tell someone's age when they get misty eyed about the heavyweight division in the 90s. It was the dawn of ppv boxing, staying up all night taking drugs and getting wasted.
In truth, Herbie HIDE was world champion (twice), Michael BENTT, a 45 year old George Foreman, Henry AKINWANDE etc etc etc. It wasn't very good at all. You had Lewis, Tysoe who was a busted flush, and evander holyfield... the first cruiserweight to win a heavyweight title (David Haye is the only other, and I'm pretty sure no one will be pronouncing his greatness any time soon) who, incidentally, lost to the bloke (Michael Moorer) that a 45 year old overweight Foreman beat to become world champion.
Great time to be alive.
|
Lato
7:01 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Not forgetting the great Yank hope at the time Michael Grant who was dispatched in under 2 rounds!
|
Lato
6:56 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Block 2:00 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
The division is still shit, in comparison to the 90's.
Hard to disagree with you there Block. I have just watched a compilation of Lennox Lewis's fights against Weaver, Ruddock, Tucker, Tyson, Morrison, Mercer, Bruno etc. Imo in his prime he would take both these 2 out in the same night!
|
Block
6:42 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
Fury doesn't want this fight because he's worried about losing his 0.
|
Charoo
6:39 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
It’s absolute bollocks. They both say they want it, then stop hiding behind deals and money and the fight.
Everyone in this world is so fucking greedy.
This should be about belts and not dollars.
Ones an ex drug dealer and the other a traveller, they are both richer than they could ever of imagined.
If you don’t have the fight in their primes then what’s the point.
I know that’s not how this cunt of a modern world works but it’s how it should.
Just have the fight you pair of cunts.
|
stewie griffin
6:33 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen?
|
asserby66 4:07 Fri Apr 30
Re: Joshua Vs Fury - will it happen
That, of course, completely ignores the 50 million 'offer' that finkel and wilder made to joshua that they couldn't provide any evidence of funds for. And ignores every time wilder said he would come to the UK to fight. And then said joshua should go to America because that's where the money is. And then said he got offered more money to fight joshua. He's contradicted himself so many times it's embarrassing.
As ever with boxing, there's two sides to the story and not too many trustworthy people involved. Personally, I'd sit on the side who has fought every mandatory rather than the side that spent 3 years avoiding theirs.
|
| 
